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		<title>By: Sarah Smythe, Ed Dale, ProBlogger and writing good content &#124; Guy McLaren</title>
		<link>http://guymclaren.com/ed-dales-30-day-challenge-is-not-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Smythe, Ed Dale, ProBlogger and writing good content &#124; Guy McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sarah took offence at my article entitled Ed Dale’s 30 day challenge is not anti spam.  I made an assumption that she misguidedly was defending Ed Dale because she uses the techniques [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GuyMcLaren</title>
		<link>http://guymclaren.com/ed-dales-30-day-challenge-is-not-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyMcLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,
Thank you for noticing that I take inspiration from other bloggers. I don&#039;t rip off their content and not add to the conversation. Thats called blogging. I add to the discussion. If you look through my blog you will find that I don&#039;t abuse other bloggers and their hard work.

You seem to have mistaken my ire at sploggers for ire at bloggers. Sploggers take content and add nothing to it. Bloggers will take inspiration from anothers blog and create something that adds to the conversation.

Your second comment here is a good example of adding to the conversation, Your first was lashing out at an article that you failed to comprehend.

I have asked Ed Dale to clarify his position with regards the use of the splogging software he recommends in Day 23 of the 30 day challenge in another article.

If the concept is to use the article to find sources of good information and then use that information to add to the conversation, I personally would have no issue with it. But as suggested in Day 23 this is an easy way to add content by the bucket load then it is really a case of not adding to the conversation but stealing others hard work. I am against lazy people out for a quick buck.

By the way next time you comment leave a link to your blog as i would like to visit it and see what value you have added. In fact if the blog is as good as I surmise it may be You may even find me adding real value by discussing what you are offering.

My critique at Ed Dale is not personal. I think its something that needs saying with the proliferation of thieving bastards not adding value. This conversation is continued at http://guymclaren.com/ed-dale-30-day-challenge-response/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,<br />
Thank you for noticing that I take inspiration from other bloggers. I don&#8217;t rip off their content and not add to the conversation. Thats called blogging. I add to the discussion. If you look through my blog you will find that I don&#8217;t abuse other bloggers and their hard work.</p>
<p>You seem to have mistaken my ire at sploggers for ire at bloggers. Sploggers take content and add nothing to it. Bloggers will take inspiration from anothers blog and create something that adds to the conversation.</p>
<p>Your second comment here is a good example of adding to the conversation, Your first was lashing out at an article that you failed to comprehend.</p>
<p>I have asked Ed Dale to clarify his position with regards the use of the splogging software he recommends in Day 23 of the 30 day challenge in another article.</p>
<p>If the concept is to use the article to find sources of good information and then use that information to add to the conversation, I personally would have no issue with it. But as suggested in Day 23 this is an easy way to add content by the bucket load then it is really a case of not adding to the conversation but stealing others hard work. I am against lazy people out for a quick buck.</p>
<p>By the way next time you comment leave a link to your blog as i would like to visit it and see what value you have added. In fact if the blog is as good as I surmise it may be You may even find me adding real value by discussing what you are offering.</p>
<p>My critique at Ed Dale is not personal. I think its something that needs saying with the proliferation of thieving bastards not adding value. This conversation is continued at <a href="http://guymclaren.com/ed-dale-30-day-challenge-response/">http://guymclaren.com/ed-dale-30-day-challenge-response/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Smythe</title>
		<link>http://guymclaren.com/ed-dales-30-day-challenge-is-not-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Smythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim Ferris quoted something from Forbes this morning about rudeness being the tool of a man who has no real power.

I saw your comment and then went looking through your blog. Surely after making such statements you would not be using content from other places to drive conversation on your blog.  Then I clicked on your archives and was surprised to see that just like the bloggers on the 30DC you too seek inspiration from, and comment on other people&#039;s content

example
http://guymclaren.com/2008/08/

I can and do imagine that the majority of good people in the 30DC follow Ed&#039;s teaching which is CREATE GOOD CONTENT. That can be commenting on other&#039;s work, embedding videos on the subject that other people have made as adjuncts to your own content and generally being good members of the blogsphere.

To call someone out for promoting good blogging practice is more a reflection on your desire for publicity I feel than any real gripe.

Read Darren Rowse&#039;s Blogging for Beginners tips for content creation and you will find that the foremost authority on the whole blogging subject will distinguish between &quot;unique&quot; content and &quot;original&quot; content....something I am charitably thinking you may have mixed up

http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/18/writing-good-content/

I hope you learn a little more on the subject of blogging, manners and trying to take out one of the &quot;good guys&quot; on the internet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Ferris quoted something from Forbes this morning about rudeness being the tool of a man who has no real power.</p>
<p>I saw your comment and then went looking through your blog. Surely after making such statements you would not be using content from other places to drive conversation on your blog.  Then I clicked on your archives and was surprised to see that just like the bloggers on the 30DC you too seek inspiration from, and comment on other people&#8217;s content</p>
<p>example<br />
<a href="http://guymclaren.com/2008/08/">http://guymclaren.com/2008/08/</a></p>
<p>I can and do imagine that the majority of good people in the 30DC follow Ed&#8217;s teaching which is CREATE GOOD CONTENT. That can be commenting on other&#8217;s work, embedding videos on the subject that other people have made as adjuncts to your own content and generally being good members of the blogsphere.</p>
<p>To call someone out for promoting good blogging practice is more a reflection on your desire for publicity I feel than any real gripe.</p>
<p>Read Darren Rowse&#8217;s Blogging for Beginners tips for content creation and you will find that the foremost authority on the whole blogging subject will distinguish between &#8220;unique&#8221; content and &#8220;original&#8221; content&#8230;.something I am charitably thinking you may have mixed up</p>
<p><a href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/18/writing-good-content/">http://www.problogger.net/archives/2006/02/18/writing-good-content/</a></p>
<p>I hope you learn a little more on the subject of blogging, manners and trying to take out one of the &#8220;good guys&#8221; on the internet</p>
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		<title>By: GuyMcLaren</title>
		<link>http://guymclaren.com/ed-dales-30-day-challenge-is-not-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyMcLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed
Are you suggesting that the tools you recommend to harvest content from other blogs is creating content?

Are you suggesting that sites that use content from other sites is creating content?

Are you suggesting that copied content with links to the original articles is fair use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed<br />
Are you suggesting that the tools you recommend to harvest content from other blogs is creating content?</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that sites that use content from other sites is creating content?</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that copied content with links to the original articles is fair use?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guy,

What I teach is not spam - I teach and expect people to deliver champagne content - If you don&#039;t  - a pox on your house

I also teach people to be vibrant, active participants in their community.

Painting and entire community as &quot;inconsiderate, illiterate, uncouth cockroaches these underhanded, slimy, bottom feeders&quot; I would suggest is a tad unfair.

Thanks for allowing me to respond

Ed

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ed Dales last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tubbynerd.com/2008/10/07/i-wish-i-was-a-good-enough-headline-writer-so-i-could-be-sure-you-would-watch-this/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I WISH I WAS A GOOD ENOUGH HEADLINE WRITER SO I COULD BE SURE YOU WOULD WATCH THIS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guy,</p>
<p>What I teach is not spam &#8211; I teach and expect people to deliver champagne content &#8211; If you don&#8217;t  &#8211; a pox on your house</p>
<p>I also teach people to be vibrant, active participants in their community.</p>
<p>Painting and entire community as &#8220;inconsiderate, illiterate, uncouth cockroaches these underhanded, slimy, bottom feeders&#8221; I would suggest is a tad unfair.</p>
<p>Thanks for allowing me to respond</p>
<p>Ed</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Ed Dales last blog post..<a href="http://tubbynerd.com/2008/10/07/i-wish-i-was-a-good-enough-headline-writer-so-i-could-be-sure-you-would-watch-this/">I WISH I WAS A GOOD ENOUGH HEADLINE WRITER SO I COULD BE SURE YOU WOULD WATCH THIS</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: GuyMcLaren</title>
		<link>http://guymclaren.com/ed-dales-30-day-challenge-is-not-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>GuyMcLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah Smythe can obviously not read or is as stupid as they can be. If your PR4 blog is a splog then yes it is spam. As you are too dumb to tell the difference between a splog and a blog I am assuming you must be american or a spammer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah Smythe can obviously not read or is as stupid as they can be. If your PR4 blog is a splog then yes it is spam. As you are too dumb to tell the difference between a splog and a blog I am assuming you must be american or a spammer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Smythe</title>
		<link>http://guymclaren.com/ed-dales-30-day-challenge-is-not-anti-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Smythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have loved to have backlinked your article to my pr 4 blog but it appears you would consider that spam. Shame that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have loved to have backlinked your article to my pr 4 blog but it appears you would consider that spam. Shame that.</p>
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